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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189243813" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189243813">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I realize the calendar invite for our meeting is for 1hr</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189243826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189243826">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought it was for 30min</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189243837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189243837">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Any thoughts on the <em>correct</em> meeting length? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189243982" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189243982">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Personally I think 1 hour or 45 minutes at least to give some padding to starting the meeting and wrapping it up.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> BatmanAoD (Kyle Strand) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244304">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Welll, today, Erin's "Thanks everyone" came at 37 minutes, so obviously that's the correct length <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> BatmanAoD (Kyle Strand) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244325">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>45 minutes seems reasonable.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244482">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it depends a bit on how we expect to use the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244504">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>If the purpose of the meeting is to <em>do work</em> (i.e., we will discuss in depth or try to do some editing etc)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244507">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>then an hour is good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244538">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>that was part of our original idea, that we would do a lot of the work synchronously, but I feel like we've 'sort of' tended to do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244656">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought it was an hour as well but when you called it it seemed ok this time. So, next time an hour?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244698">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>But then, if we exhaust the agenda, then we add something if we've used up less than half an hour?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244901">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well maybe the problem is the agenda isn't full enough sometimes.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189244946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189244946">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189245014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189245014">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>although this is the first time it has been so recently. perhaps Zulip will help make it easier to select agenda items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189245452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189245452">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> What would you think of using the next meeting to brainstorm how to move forward with the "legal entity" issue? I'm just looking through our GitHub issues, and that's a topic that can definitely fill an hour of discussion.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189245645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189245645">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>what would our goal be? I'm not against it, I just know there has been lengthy discussion on internals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189246618" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189246618">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="249394">@Val Grimm</span> I would say to try to make some progress in defining a initial scope of what we want to achieve, talk through the reasons for making a legal entity and find which of those reasons we think should be prioritised, and what we think should be left off the table for now even if we know it's important for the future.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189294089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189294089">(Feb 28 2020 at 09:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll update the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189610070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189610070">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> I don't think that's a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189610290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189610290">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm working through a few things internal to Mozilla first, getting some ducks lined up, and I don't want to disturb those discussions.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189610428" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189610428">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry for the relative radio silence, one other thing I've been organizing is talking to some other organizations to get a better view of their experiences and trying to post some notes from those discussions -- a lot of people reached out to me after the blog post, for example. But I don't want to do those too publicly because it's harder for people to speak frankly. I'm trying to decide what's the right balance there. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting%20length/near/189611054" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/meeting.20length.html#189611054">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:49)</a>:</h4>
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